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      PvP 4 gate proxy.

      Howdy all, moved to the NA server for a bit and I am getting pummeled by 4gate proxy builds. I normally go the economic route with three gates and occasionally a robo. Is there any way I can hold off that initial push?
      P.s. Tried sentries, it's okay but very temporary any other suggestions

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      Unfortunately PvP is an extremely volatile matchup atm. You really have 2 options to defend a 4 gate. You either A. also 4 gate or B. 3 gate + VERY VERY quick stalkers and 100% deny a proxy pylon. The 2nd option is, of course, harder. To use it effectively you *MUST* skip your first sentry and chrono out 2-3 stalkers and patrol the map immediatly.
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      Yea, since im not a protoss I cant give specifics, however its the same for every race, you either power a build to get a bigger army, or deny the pylon, best option to deny is at about 14-20 food scout around your bases, behind the grasses, check the xelnaga towers and make scout to make sure thats what he is doing.

      Also if you see a rouge probe running around, or a delayed scout, or a scout that runs off for a bit and comes back a minute later, scout around your base.

      And with the sentry thing, let a couple units get up then forcefield, so you can take them out bit by bit, your buildings might take a hell of a lot of damage if you walled off, however they will more than likely survive.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Moderas View Post
      Unfortunately PvP is an extremely volatile matchup atm. You really have 2 options to defend a 4 gate. You either A. also 4 gate or B. 3 gate + VERY VERY quick stalkers and 100% deny a proxy pylon. The 2nd option is, of course, harder. To use it effectively you *MUST* skip your first sentry and chrono out 2-3 stalkers and patrol the map immediatly.
      Mhmm..gotta love the GSTL for giving us this. This came from IM YungHwa. Artosis details it here: YouTube - ArtosisTV's Channel

      Actual build order is here courtesy of CecilSunkure on TL:
      [G] IMYongHwa Korean 3 Stalker Robo

      I think this is my preferred build against 4gates now. Even if the other guy doesn't 4gate, it is still a solid opening into midgame IMHO.

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      Honestly I've seen the 3 gate robo anti 4 gate build and don't really like it.

      It's adaptable, but if they go 1 gate robo or 3 gate expand you will lose to an equal player. I'm generally against builds specifically countering only 1 other build.

      If you see them 4 gate just hold it off with your own 4 gate if they don't 4 gate 3 gate expand. Good enough pvp for anyone not in diamond or masters.
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      The 4 Gate rush is not too hard to hold off. It depends on the map but check out this build and replay to see a robo build hold off a 4 gate with just a couple of sentries.

      Starcraft 2 Noob: Downloads, replays, and strategies.: The 3 Gate Robo Colossus Build with Replay

      I think the key to holding off a 4gate is sentries. 2 sentries should be able to hold it off long enough for you to pull out an immortal or even a colossus.

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